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There seems to be currently 4 sources for CCL tarballs:

• The subversion repository: ​http://svn.clozure.com (which may or may not be retired one day now that CCL is also on Github).
• A HTTP source: ​http://ccl.clozure.com/ftp/pub/release.
• A FTP source: ​ftp://ftp.clozure.com/pub/release.
• Github release tarballs: ​https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases.

The first three sources do not provide encrypted transport which is a security issue. Github release tarballs are available over TLS, but the last stable version (1.11) is only available as source.

I just created a stable CCL package for Archlinux (​https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ccl) which uses the FTP source, but it would be more secure to be able to switch to a source that supports TLS transport.

Providing binary tarballs (such as ccl-1.11-linuxx86.tar.gz) on Github would probably be the easiest solution for you, if you do not already have a SSL certificate for ccl.clozure.com. Additionally (or as an alternative), Let's Encrypt (​https://letsencrypt.org) could help you provide clozure.com in general over TLS.

I don't know if we'll ever fix this or not. It's probably about 3 days' work to:

1) add support for calling variadic ObjC methods

2) add DWARF debugging info to the kernel point(s) where ObjC method calls are made (SPffcall, possibly variants of it) to support the C++-style declarative exception handling that the 64-bit ObjC runtime uses.

3) add other missing features that I may not be thinking of.

I'm an average level Common LISP user/programmer, not familiar with the environment's internals, using

• CCL Version 1.11.1 (16714) downloaded 05/19/2017 from Apple's App Store
• MacOS Sierra 10.12.5 (16F73)

I use a $HOME/ccl-init.lisp file to load other personal files upon CCL double-clic startup. I use the Macintosch IDE. My cl-init.lisp file allows me to choose between a couple of (load #P"/blabla...") forms. My personal files are loaded indeed, but leading to strange behaviors. In all cases, the following fixes the problem(s):

1. open the concerned file(s) in editor window(s) (i.e. File menu > Open...)
2. re-evaluate the whole file(s) (i.e. <cmd><shift><E>) or appropriate part(s) of it (i.e. <cmd><E>)

From then on, things work properly. It's as if the files had been first carelessly loaded upon startup, some elements skipped or something of that sort... (I know this is absurd.)

Example 1 A class defined in a file loaded by cl-init.lisp is defined indeed (it's not reported as undefined), but with one of its slots missing or bugged: the slot's initarg is reported invalid. It's fixed as soon as I re-evaluate manually the defclass source code.

Example 2 A function is defined (not reported as undefined), but gives wrong results when called (details not significant). It's fixed as soon as I re-evaluate manually the defun source code.

Example 3 A function is defined (not reported as undefined), but gives this error when called:

> Error: The value NIL is not of the expected type NUMBER.
> While executing: CCL::+-2, in process Listener(5).

Similar issue in LW (Lispworks)? Example 3 seems to me similar to the following error when opening a file with my older LW 6.1 in the newer MacOS Sierra 10.12.5:

 Error in process "Cocoa Event Loop" {undebuggable process}
 In + of (NIL 0) arguments should be of type NUMBER.

In LW 7.0, I have learned from experience with an Evaluation license that the latter bug and other oddities are somehow fixed within four (pre compiled) files in the private-patches folder. However, I'm switching to CCL to avoid purchasing LW 7.0, aside from the pleasure of going back to an environment similar to MCL, which I used a lot until 2008 on Motorola Macs, and liked very much.

Tentative causes

• Problem between CCL and Cocoa in MacOS Sierra 10.12.5? (I'm afraid I have only a vague idea about what Cocoa really is in fact...)
• Differences (ex. character set) between files as stored on disk and once opened in editor window buffers?

Sorry for the lengthy report!